From: Another Opinion
Will,
Banks will lend money for houses, but not for dirt (land).
From: Another Opinion
Will,
Banks will lend money for houses, but not for dirt (land).
Author : “Jay Carney”
Well then…it seems to men an “honest” and “forthright” reply to Mr Gunderson’s recent email on the survey is in order. I would also think specifics, and perhaps with concrete examples, would be in order
“Speak now or forever hold your tongue”….
Author : Will
Hey Sender:
Have you driven around RP lately. There must be 35-40 new homes being built. I can’t believe they are all being built with no mortgages. I personally know Bank South is still lending in RP.
I think the lenders are being very conservative and rightfully so. We don’t need anymore foreclosures.
Personally I feel Reynolds Plantation needs fresh blood!! Nothing has changed.
From: Another Opinion
Bill Murray,
OK, I get it. You think of your home as an investment. I think of my home as , well, a home. Whenever I enhance the landscape of my home, I do it because I think it looks pretty. I don’t do all the math to
determine whether it will be an astute investment.
That being said, you know as we’ll as I do that decreases in property values over the past 5 years is due to a national real estate problem, not a local one.
Ask any real estate agent and they will tell you that banks will not lend money to purchase land in golf communities. That sharply limits the number of prospects to those who are able to buy with green cash money. Those type of purchasers want pretty sodded entrances.
So you don’t have to ask, that is more humor.
Author : Bill Murray
To Another Opinion:
Not sure how long you have lived here? POA was $995.00 then $1030.00 and last year $1060.00. If they keep spending money on things that are NOT needed, wait till they spend on things that are needed.
As others have stated, serving on the POA or the BOG is a superficial position that carries no weight. The POA and BOG will do what they want to do when they want to do it. I have had friends who have served and will never serve again because their opinions are not considered if they don’t agree with the POA.
Perhaps some day if and when your money runs out my friend you will look back and think that perhaps RP could have been a bit more conservative. My “final” question to you as I grow tired and weary of the banter is> How much did your property value increase because RP spent a boat load of money (which no one will disclose) on sod??
Put a number on how much your property increased(because of sod) and subtract that from all the losses that everyone has taken in the last 2 years that has sold their homes. That is large negative number!!
From: Another Opinion
Bill Murray,
Yes, I was trying to add some humor to this discussion. But, just like the guy on the TV MetLife add who tells Lucy that he cannot sell the insurance policy for 5 cents, we need to expect to pay more than 5 cents for enhancements to our community.
By the way, I never remember getting an extra bill from the POA . We pay an annual fee and allow the POA to do their thing. If anyone disagrees with the way the POA does their thing, then join the POA and participate in their decision making process.
Author : concerned property owner
Mr. Turner:
Thanks for the heads up. I don’t think the problem is looking at the books. Because when they need more money they just send the members a bill!!
The only time Controlling expenses was in their vocabulary was when the Receiver was running the place.
The sad part is all these comments on the blog and the POA still hasn’t stepped up and told us how much they spent ripping out the grass and replacing with sod!!
Author : Bill Murray
To Another Opinion:
To answer your question I have owned companies that had around 100-200 employees and run companies that employed around 10k.
I agree decisions need to be delegated in both large and small companies. My point is that there was perfectly good-nice looking grass at the New Gate( this is NOT the Main Gate) that has been there for 4 years. Why did it need replaced?
I do hope you were attempting to be funny with the ” There are many other communities that will accomodate those with only 5 cents.” We got our wealth through hard work, modest spending, good investments and a little luck. Spending frivolously wasn’t in the equation!!
From: Another Opinion
OK, Jay,
One of the main entrances to the community.
Author : HENRY A. TURNER, ATTORNEY AT LAW
TO: SenderSender and others
As earlier posted, O.C.G.A. ยง 14-3-1604 gives members the right to inspect the books of a nonprofit corporation such as RPOA. The procedure for making the request to inspect, set forth in the Statute, needs to be carefully followed to ensure the maximum access to books and records (including financial information).
~ Please note that this posting is informational only and does not constitute legal advice.~
Author : “Jay Carney”
We feel strongly about this issue…both ways….however we must take issue that the West Gate is the “main entrance to a community”…..unless one considers only The Creek Club the “community”.
From: Another Opinion
Bill Murray,
Thanks for reading my response.
You say you have run a few companies. Big or small?
If small, I realize that you would need to get involved in all the details. If large ( i.e. Reynolds), then every decision cannot be micromanaged. Decisions need to be delegated to some degree. Beautifying the main entrance to a community the size of Reynolds is, in my opinion, very reasonable and a decision that does not require the approval of the masses.
I’m upping the ante. That is my $1000.
There are many other communities that will accomodate those with only 5 cents.
Author : Bill Murray
Another Opinion:
I do understand your comment and I truly do want the place looking nice. I do however have a problem with someone spending “our money” on something that has served us well for the last 4 years ( the sod).
I think if Metlife/Daniels/Reynolds (any one of the 3) would communicate to the members about spending “our money” and explain what they are or in this case did spend “our money” on, it might not be so obtrusive.
I have owned a few companies and I have run a few companies in my career, both required justification of expenditures!
I would like to be able to spend the rest of my life in this wonderful place I call home. I don’t want to feel I have to worry about unnecessary expenditures by management trying to gain future sales at “our expense”.
And that’s MY OPINION!!
Author : Lucy’s 5 cents
To Sender Sender:
You are one Lucky Person!!! I have lived here for 10 years and have only ever had our previous owner and our Real Estate Broker come up to me in a clubhouse. I have never had any of the other 3 act even remotely friendly. Sorry but to me when you are the head of a community as large as RP you have to be friendly and full of personality!!
Have you tried to call the POA recently? Did someone answer the phone or did you have to leave a message and wait for a call back?
I am truly glad to hear you have had positive experiences, so if you are not an RP employee I would love to hear about them. Just let me know who you really are and we can get together. By the way my real name is Lucy!!
From: Schroeder
A Means to What End,
You ask, “…..has the blog ever energized the followers to action?”
What about THE VOTE? How could you possibly forget?
From: SenderSender
Lucy,
Not sure who you are referring to and whether from personal experience or not. I have never had anything but openness and friendly communications with POA and anyone in “upper management.” I’ve lived here for over 8 years and had many opportunities to ask questions, get services from the POA, and every singe time, it has been a very pleasant and positive experience.
Author : A Means to What End
I have to agree with Sender Sender surely an enlightened community such as ours recognizes that a few folks raising issues on a blog, no matter how well intentioned, does not drive change. I have to assume management neither systematically monitors nor responses to the blog; why should they has the blog ever energized its followers to action?
Blogs raise issues that seem important at the moment and then the news cycle moves on. Valid and reliable data drives decisionmaking and insights raised on the blog, though arguably one indicator of Community health, are generally not sufficient to act upon.
So I end with what is the purpose of the blog? If it is to raise issues within the Community fine, but then the Community should find ways to validate and formally address the issues raised with management. Don’t expect management to do this for us.
From: Another Opinion
I am chiming in to support the notion that many residents don’t mind spending a few bucks to enhance our lifestyle. That is the whole point of living here. If you don’t want to spend some money on the neighborhood then choose a place to live without a POA. Then you can spend whatever you like on your own land. If you want to live in an upscale environment you must pay for it.
That’s my $100. If you only have 5 cents, then Reynolds is not your best choice.
Author : checks and balances
Good post Lucy!!
Unapproachable and Unfriendly Upper Management spending our money frivolously is ridiculous.
I hope Daniels/Metlife soon sees the light.
Author : Lucy’s 5 cents
To Sender Sender:
The BOG is strictly an “advisory capacity”. They have no authority. The most effective is the Food & Beverage in my opinion and even they have very limited abilities.
When it comes to the POA, ARB and members of Upper Management they are unapproachable and unfriendly.
In respect to your comment about the sod at the new gate, the gate has been open approximately 3-4 years and the grass looked good. I have never heard anyone complain.
So when your POA fees and other fees go up because all this money was spent that didn’t need to be spent on sod perhaps you will look for a “break” then.
That’s my 5 cents worth.
Author : Bill Murray
To Sender Sender:
First off the grass at the gate has turned in prior years but it is watered by the pond. No one has complained to my knowledge. It has always come back and looked fine!
Secondly, I would guess you have never served or been a member of the BOG? They are very limited in what they are allowed to do. I have been told to many times “Thanks for your opinion” and then they do what they want to!!!
These folks do work hard and put a lot of effort and have lot of expertise. But the previous owner and the previous/current management will do what they want to do when they want to do it. With or without consent of the BOG.
So there is NO BREAK. There will be no change until there is NEW MANAGEMENT!!
From: SenderSender
Instead of “blogging” and speculating about what the POA is doing, why not go to the POA Committee? It is made up of members who have volunteered and met the criteria (see the BOA web page for details) for membership. They were voted in by the the members of the POA Committee after applying, not by management. No, there is no management “approval” required, except to ensure the applying member is a “member in good standing” relative to dues payments and POA dues.
These folks work very hard and closely with management regarding all POA expenses. They see and contribute to the budgets as they are prepared and have major inputs and influence.
Why not ask these people who know the answers to your questions rather than speculating about how bad things are?
I suspect that if the grass at the new gate were turning brown in the summer because it was the wrong kind or for whatever reason, bloggers would complain about the fact that POA was not doing their job! Give ‘em a break!!!
Author : Will
RE: Transparency
The POA doesn’t “come back and ask the members to pay more”. They simple tell us and bill us.
Author : Bill Murray
We all know our previous owners kept us in the dark. I agree there should be some “transparency” about expenses.
I think on non essential projects the POA should ask the members first. Just don’t keep coming back and asking the members to pay more money!!
That will be 5 cents please
From: checks and balances
Since the POA is the one that decided to tear up the grass and replace with sod at the New Gate and RP Members fund or pay for the POA why shouldn’t we be told how much the project cost?
Is that to much to ask?
Author : Lucy’s 5 cents
To Patch:
After reading your “no big deal expense” comment I am intrigued. What do you consider “no big deal expense”?? The sod I had put in at my house was a lot of money and no where near that size!!
From: Out-of-State
Daniel Corporation
Finally – Daniel Corporation has a new updated web site. it no longer looks 100 years old AND RP is included in it.
Author : Patch
CPO, I don’t see any work going on at Landing as you referred to. The work on 44 at the new entrance was no big deal expense wise IMO.
From: Jep Pound
We are making great progress at the hospital and have just posted our latest aerial photos. Check us out at: http://bgstmaryslakeoconee.blogspot.com/